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ra0507
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Scottie,

From what I understand, then, is that there is nothing available from Miller Performance in the way of a conversion to MAF. Has anyone tried the high voltage MAF conversion from Split Second?

Rick

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WTF, see now I'm lost... again =-( So what is this chip only system? Does it utilize the Motronic and ditch the AFM (this is my goal, either Speed Density or a huge MAF sender)?

I have no issues reburning chips over and over to get the setup I need if that is how this setup works. I just need to be able to do this at home as mailing a chip to Canada and back will get old real fast.

How's the Aux injector manifold work anyway.

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Originally posted by ra0507

Scottie,

From what I understand, then, is that there is nothing available from Miller Performance in the way of a conversion to MAF. Has anyone tried the high voltage MAF conversion from Split Second?

Rick



Last I spoke with Dan (several months ago) he had this working, but only for M106 with a manual tranny.

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WTF, see now I'm lost... again =-( So what is this chip only system? Does it utilize the Motronic and ditch the AFM (this is my goal, either Speed Density or a huge MAF sender)?

I have no issues reburning chips over and over to get the setup I need if that is how this setup works. I just need to be able to do this at home as mailing a chip to Canada and back will get old real fast.

How's the Aux injector manifold work anyway.


The MAF kit is a chip and MAF sensor housing. The chip includes Dan's 745i tuning. He will custom tune your car for you, but it is better to get the Tuner's Kit so you can tune your own car.

The Tuner's Kit is a Perfect Power 6 add-on module. This is the unit that will allow you to retune the fuel map (and timing if you have a coil controller like the MSD 6a) via computer software (whether or not it has an MAF kit or a stock AFM).

The Aux injector manifold is controlled by the Tuner's Kit. It allows an extra squirt of fuel smoothly anywhere in the fuel map.

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I tried to call them today and I guess they're out enjoying the weather. :( lol

So the MAF kit's chip is so the Motronic can understand the MAF's reading and to remove the boost cut, correct? Is the MAF meter the CNC one from Miller or the Ford style from a Lightning/Harley truck?

And then the Tuner's Kit (that is still avail, right?) is that PCU-1 deal, yes? The timing can be played with when using the HP22 trans too?

I THINK I am seeing what is going on.

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I think you are getting it!

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I believe I'm just over complicating the items.

Did I read one of Dan's posts, the piggyback does have Wideband O2 control? I'm familiar with using the external controller in conjunction with the tuning software to log/tune with the wideband (I use a Tech Edge with EFI Live on the GM side of things). I sure hope this is the case.

http://bmwturbos.scottiesharpe.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3250&whichpage=3&SearchTerms=wastegate

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SMT6 - THE SMART TUNER 6 PIGGY-BACK SYSTEM

The SMT6 is universal piggy back system, designed to allow you to tune almost ANY electronically fuel injected engine.
Signals are modified on maps found within the SMT6 unit itself, and the Windows Tuning Software. Installation and tuning is simple and once installed the engine can be re-tuned by anyone with a laptop or PC, comms cable and the Tuning Software.

An average installation consists of connecting 6 wires to the vehicle's original wiring loom, changing the settings of the SMT6 in the setup section of the Tuning Software and voila! - you are ready to re-tune the vehicle. An experienced installer can install an SMT6 unit within 30 minutes!


The SMT6 product is packaged in two kits: the SMT6 User Kit and the SMT6 Kit.

The SMT6 User Kit contains all the necessary items for a First Time or Once-Off installation.


The SMT6 User Kit includes the following items:

SMT6 Unit with Injector Driver

SMT6 Harness (Wiring Loom)

SMT6 Communications Cable

SMT6 Shorting Plug (Bridging Plug)
This useful product allows you to revert your vehicle to stock standard, should you need to remove the installed SMT6 unit for any reason.

SMT6 CD complete with all the Manuals and Software
Note: The important SMT6 Developer's Manual is only available on the SMT6 CD.
A very useful accessory to use with the SMT6 unit, is the SMT6 Test Jig. This product allows you to test the SMT6 unit and confirms that all components are working 100%. It also assists with the installation of the SMT6, as you can test for any faults at each stage of the installation. The SMT6 Test Jig is affordable and is available to purchase as an optional accessory for only 31.43 US Dollars!


The SMT6 Kit is for a Repeat Installation. There are certain things that you won't need to get again, as you would've already purchased them in the SMT6 User Kit, e.g. the SMT6 comms cable.
The useful SMT6 Shorting Plug, would need to be purchased as an additional item.
The SMT6 Kit includes the following items:

SMT6 Unit with Injector Driver

SMT6 Harness (Wiring Loom)
A full list of the FEATURES AND BENEFITS of the SMT6 is included in the table below.

More details on some of the important features are:

Lambda Feature: With the SMT6 it is possible to read the lambda sensor, as well as modify the lambda sensor signals. There are two modes of lambda tuning - linear and non-linear. The linear mode tunes according to the voltage of the sensor, while the non-linear mode allows you to tune according to a lambda value. Both tuning modes are selectable via the setup screen in the Windows Tuning Software.

The SMT6 has an output which can be enabled according to an RPM setpoint, which is mainly used with CAM switching applications. This output can also be used to set the airflow, temperature and analog deflection points.

The SMT6's extra injector driver allows more fuel to be added into an engine, and is ideal for Turbo applications. This extra injector driver can also be used for proportional nitrous injection.

The SMT6 also has an input for airflow sensors and temperature sensors, and each of them has a separate map that can be used to manipulate the fuel, extra injector and ignition signals.
FEATURES & BENEFITS OF THE SMT6
All piggy-back systems rely on the exiting ECU to provide the fuel and ignition to an electronically fuel injected engine. Therefore, they are also bound by the limitations of the existing ECU.

Fuel is typically modified by changing the load sensor or lambda sensor signal. Ignition is done by delaying or advancing the crank angle sensor's signal. The piggy-back system tricks the ECU into thinking that it is running under different conditions thereby allowing for a different output.


Feature Benefit
Throttle Sensor learning feature Fits to any throttle position
RPM Calibration To suit your installation
High RPM range Ideal for racing
Fuel map with 128 sites Smooth Programming
Ignition Map with 128 sites Fine Ignition resolution
Injection Map with 128 sites For extra (boost!) injection
0 - 10 volt Analogue range Allows tuning of most models
6 Amp injector drive Handles 6 x 16 ohm injectors
Various ignition outputs For the most stringent applications
Selectable Trigger points To suit your application
Programmable Cylinders It works on any amount of cylinders!
Selectable polarity To Suit your application
Can handle interlaced signal For 4 cylinders ignition output tuning
Balanced Inputs Inverted Outputs
Missing Tooth Signal For up to 2 teeth advance/retard
Ignition output limit Limits max. advance and retard
Fuel High Low Limit Prevents overdriving the ECU
Small Size Fits Anywhere
Low Battery Drain Simple Installation
Self Checking Test Available For Extra Confidence
Map Switchable While you drive!
All Inputs Protected No mishaps!
Crystal Controlled For Stability
Encapsulated For Moisture and Dust
Easy Tuning Software DOS or WINDOWS
Low Component Count High MTBF
10 MIPS computing To facilitate quick engine response
Signal Conditioning To prevent miss trigger
Engine profiles (library) Easy set up
Lambda Signal Tuning Modification of Lambda Senor Readings
Proportional Nitrous Control Less waste of power in nitrous injection
Adjust Dwell Time For very basic standalone applications
RPM or Airflow or Analogue Defection or Temp Switch/Set Point For CAM switch and similar applications



Wiring Diagrams
We are constantly creating NEW Wiring Diagrams for the SMT6 product, based on actual installations that we do, as well as requests that we receive. Please visit the Downloads Section on our website to view the list of available Wiring Diagrams. Should you not find a diagram that you need, please email us with your specific vehicle's ECU pin out data at info@perfectpower.com and we will create a diagram for you.

SMT6 Test Jig
The SMT6 Test Jig is a wonderful tool to have if you own or would like to own an SMT6. For more information about this product please click here.

Software & Manuals
All software and manuals with the exception of the important SMT6 Developers Manual can be downloaded from the Downloads Section on our website.

The SMT6 CD, which contains the SMT6 Developer's Manual, can be purchased for only 6.71 US Dollars!





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Okay, Miller's site shows around $350 for this setup, is that the proper one? http://millerperformancecars.com/catalogue/131.html

If so, only other thing I need to confirm is the O2 operation.

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